So, this morning I went on Facebook to check the Baby and Kids items and Furniture For Sale groups in the area. Having twins, I'm always looking for a bargain. I also hate my couch and loveseat, but that's a whole other talk show...
Immediately I notice there is a common subject in the posts - and it's not cribs or couches. It was regarding a supposed child abduction on post yesterday. Don't get me wrong, I take child abduction very seriously. However, I wasn't alarmed because someone is claiming their child was 'almost' abducted almost daily here. My guess is the crazies see someone stopped on the curb (probably checking directions or making a phone call) close to where their children are playing and spaz out, especially if the person in the car is black.
Let me get a little off track and explain something here before I continue so you know why race is important. The base itself, and the surrounding area is predominantly black. You get these poor little white girls shipped here from Kentucky, and they are terrified. Seriously. Before I moved here all I got told was how the black people at Stewart hated white people and treated them like crap, blah, blah, blah. I paid it no mind because race matters not to me. I can fit in just about anywhere, with just about anyone when it comes to race. Many of my good friends are black and I am more than aware that stereotypes based on race are just that, stereotypes. So, the idea of living in a predominantly black area does not concern me. I would like to note that I've never had anyone treat me differently because I'm white since I've been here. There are rude people everywhere, but my theory is the feeling of being treated differently by black people more than likely stems from a subconscious attitude they put off around people of color.
Anyway, when you get Bobbi Mae out of the white 'hood and throw her into an area like this with her nonexistent cultural exposure, she gets scared. She thinks every black person is going to rob her, rape her, carjack her.... Ugh. You think I'm joking, I'm not. I've seen the ignorant fear in these people. I just laugh.
Ok, back to my original rant.
So here's the first post I saw:
Ok. Stop. At this point I pretty much assumed it's all gossip, and probably not even true. Especially considering I had read about 10 other posts with different stories. Of course they were all black drivers, but they couldn't seem to decide whether they were in an Orange Monte Carlo or tan Ford Taurus. Cause, you know, they look SO similar. It was probably a white woman, in a green El Camino who side swiped another vehicle or something.
This car, the Monte Carlo mentioned, is a pretty obvious vehicle. I see it quite often - you can't miss it. The guy who drives it is a soldier, not that it makes him incapable of crime, but I'm sure he lives in the area due to the frequency in which I see it.
What kind of child abductor would come on a military base as a frequent visitor in a bright orange Monte Carlo with 26" rims, (That chick must have amazing vision to have been able to measure them from a distance, come to think of it!) stop in the middle of the road, pop the trunk, grab a knife and try to force a kid into it? Yep, sounds reasonable to me.
Poor guy. Now every time the crazies see him they're going to panic and call 911 because they think he's a kidnapper. He probably either a) Had nothing to do with anything or b) knowing the mindset of the white people here stopped or slowed down a little too close to their white children and they freaked. Unfortunately, you can't reason with these hens.
I would love to post the resulting thread after I politely commented on both stating this was obviously gossip and while I appreciated their concern for the kiddies, it wasn't right to post a picture of someones car and accusations like that without knowing the facts. I also told them I was sure if an attempted abduction had occurred there probably would have been an official announcement post wide.
They in turn told me that it wasn't gossip (No? I'm pretty sure repeating things you've heard but can't confirm, is gossip. Maybe it's just me.) and that on a military base things are hush hush, so there would have been no alert. What the hell do they think we are, the Mafia?! Oh no! Another attempted abduction (there's at least 5 claims a week), we better keep it on the DL. Wouldn't want people to keep their children safe.
Here's an idea. You want to protect the children of these neighborhoods from being kidnapped? Watch your own first. The first step towards avoiding child abduction is supervising your kids. I bet while this chick was typing up her frantic story to alert the masses, her child was off doing God knows what.
Also, as a side note. Stop being scared of black people. Race against race crime is pretty rare in reality, especially when it comes to kidnappings and sex crimes. Those are typically race on race crimes. So, my dear white friends, that black man standing over there is probably not going to rape you or steal your child. However, you may want to be wary of the white dude over there scoping you out.
Have a nice day!
Immediately I notice there is a common subject in the posts - and it's not cribs or couches. It was regarding a supposed child abduction on post yesterday. Don't get me wrong, I take child abduction very seriously. However, I wasn't alarmed because someone is claiming their child was 'almost' abducted almost daily here. My guess is the crazies see someone stopped on the curb (probably checking directions or making a phone call) close to where their children are playing and spaz out, especially if the person in the car is black.
Let me get a little off track and explain something here before I continue so you know why race is important. The base itself, and the surrounding area is predominantly black. You get these poor little white girls shipped here from Kentucky, and they are terrified. Seriously. Before I moved here all I got told was how the black people at Stewart hated white people and treated them like crap, blah, blah, blah. I paid it no mind because race matters not to me. I can fit in just about anywhere, with just about anyone when it comes to race. Many of my good friends are black and I am more than aware that stereotypes based on race are just that, stereotypes. So, the idea of living in a predominantly black area does not concern me. I would like to note that I've never had anyone treat me differently because I'm white since I've been here. There are rude people everywhere, but my theory is the feeling of being treated differently by black people more than likely stems from a subconscious attitude they put off around people of color.
Anyway, when you get Bobbi Mae out of the white 'hood and throw her into an area like this with her nonexistent cultural exposure, she gets scared. She thinks every black person is going to rob her, rape her, carjack her.... Ugh. You think I'm joking, I'm not. I've seen the ignorant fear in these people. I just laugh.
Ok, back to my original rant.
So here's the first post I saw:
This post is for all the families thats in the Ft.Stewart/Hinesville area but mainly on post. Please be on the look out for an orange Monte Carlo on 26" rims. Its 2blk guys in the veh. They have tried on 2 different times to snatch lil kids up today in Southern Oaks. If u know r see this car pls call 911 or the MPs. Pls repost if u n the area. Thank uSeems harmless enough, right? Well then I read this:
I got an email from a 911 operator... this is what it said.There was another one that detailed how he tried to force a child into his trunk with a knife. It's since been deleted. Too bad, it was pretty intense. I would have like to have shared.
"I am working at the Fort Stewart 911 Center. There is no truth to the claim of the driver of this car trying to pick up kids. He is wanted for something else. Please post this as a clarification or delete the post. Thank you."
Please remove all posts about this!
Ok. Stop. At this point I pretty much assumed it's all gossip, and probably not even true. Especially considering I had read about 10 other posts with different stories. Of course they were all black drivers, but they couldn't seem to decide whether they were in an Orange Monte Carlo or tan Ford Taurus. Cause, you know, they look SO similar. It was probably a white woman, in a green El Camino who side swiped another vehicle or something.
This car, the Monte Carlo mentioned, is a pretty obvious vehicle. I see it quite often - you can't miss it. The guy who drives it is a soldier, not that it makes him incapable of crime, but I'm sure he lives in the area due to the frequency in which I see it.
What kind of child abductor would come on a military base as a frequent visitor in a bright orange Monte Carlo with 26" rims, (That chick must have amazing vision to have been able to measure them from a distance, come to think of it!) stop in the middle of the road, pop the trunk, grab a knife and try to force a kid into it? Yep, sounds reasonable to me.
Poor guy. Now every time the crazies see him they're going to panic and call 911 because they think he's a kidnapper. He probably either a) Had nothing to do with anything or b) knowing the mindset of the white people here stopped or slowed down a little too close to their white children and they freaked. Unfortunately, you can't reason with these hens.
I would love to post the resulting thread after I politely commented on both stating this was obviously gossip and while I appreciated their concern for the kiddies, it wasn't right to post a picture of someones car and accusations like that without knowing the facts. I also told them I was sure if an attempted abduction had occurred there probably would have been an official announcement post wide.
They in turn told me that it wasn't gossip (No? I'm pretty sure repeating things you've heard but can't confirm, is gossip. Maybe it's just me.) and that on a military base things are hush hush, so there would have been no alert. What the hell do they think we are, the Mafia?! Oh no! Another attempted abduction (there's at least 5 claims a week), we better keep it on the DL. Wouldn't want people to keep their children safe.
Here's an idea. You want to protect the children of these neighborhoods from being kidnapped? Watch your own first. The first step towards avoiding child abduction is supervising your kids. I bet while this chick was typing up her frantic story to alert the masses, her child was off doing God knows what.
Also, as a side note. Stop being scared of black people. Race against race crime is pretty rare in reality, especially when it comes to kidnappings and sex crimes. Those are typically race on race crimes. So, my dear white friends, that black man standing over there is probably not going to rape you or steal your child. However, you may want to be wary of the white dude over there scoping you out.
Have a nice day!
"There are rude people everywhere, but my theory is the feeling of being treated differently by black people more than likely stems from a subconscious attitude they put off around people of color. "
ReplyDeleteYour theory is interesting but I can tell you that I've been treated differently and it was not my subconscious attitude. I am white and married to a AA man so it's not like I don't have black people around. The attitude I often get from many AA people when showing up with my husband is upsetting. A ;)
Hi. I replied to this, but I'm not sure where it went. Perhaps to your email? If so sorry for the redundancy.
DeleteMy response was I think the reactions you're talking about is due to the fact that you're in a romantic, interracial relationship. I've noticed that tends to make people of all races uncomfortable for some reason. I used to notice the same "looks" when in public with my black male friends, however have never experienced the same "looks" when with a black female friend, even when accompanying them to an event where I was the only white person. I think the idea of interracial relationships is still far less accepted than people realize. I don't know why. Obviously, racism and prejudices happen everywhere, to all races, especially here. But I think your issue is more due to the fact that you're a white woman married to a black man rather than just the fact that you're white. If you weren't together romantically, I don't think the poor treatment would be as prevalent. It's not right, but there's not much that can be done, unfortunately :(
I grew up in Orlando and spent about 5-6 years in Atlanta(4th grade-9th grade), I was the only white girl in my neighborhood a few times, and the majority of students at my school were black, Hispanic, and Asian. So it was normal for me to be around people that weren't all white. Living in these larger cities, I never experienced discrimination based on my race (that I knew of anyway). About 6 years ago I moved to a very, very tiny TOWN in themiddleofnowhere, FL. My first day of work in the town's Subway, I was amazed by how openly racist my white coworkers were. I even found out that my new boss had never even hired someone that wasn't white. They didn't like the black people in the town because apparently they were rude and racist against white people.
ReplyDeleteI didn't take this seriously, I always thought people would treat you how you treated them. My third or fourth night working alone (closing)a group of 5-6 black girls came in as I was drying my hands (I had just finished washing them). I started to put on a clean pair of gloves as I greeted them (super friendly). Not one of them even looked at me, just started barking their order. I pulled out the bread they wanted and she said "No, hell no, you better throw that out right now, you didn't wash your hands" while her friends started shaking their heads and calling me "nasty white girl". Working in enough restaurants to know better than to open my mouth, I just smiled and turned around and washed my hands a second time, then went to put on a clean pair of gloves. "You barely used any soap! You better wash them again". I was pretty pissed off at this point, but I needed that job, there was nowhere hiring in that town. Knowing they were clean, I washed them again, using an unnecessary amount of soap. Then I proceeded to make her sandwich, with her talking to me like absolute shit the entire time with her friends just laughing at her, they knew she was being ridiculous. They all sat in the dining room (with some of her friends eating McDonalds) and made the biggest mess I had ever seen, I'm talking spilled drinks, food all over the floor, mayo wiped on the wall and chairs. I just did not get it.
During my 3 years working at that Subway, about 75% of the black customers were not nice (not just to me, to all the white employees), not to the extreme as the first group of girls, but just rude, without reason. Another night I worked with a girl that had been there a while. I saw her being pretty nasty to a black customer, and the customer was treating her the same way.
It was just disgusting to me, seeing how backwards and ignorant many people in that town were. I was miserable there for 3 years. Of course not everybody was like that, but it's safe to say that most of them were. Living in that town was one of the worst experiences of my life (and not just because of the residents). I think a lot of them acted like that because that is was they expected the other person to act like, you know? But it's crazy that in 2009 (at the time i lived there) and 2012 there are still people and entire towns that act like that. I'm now back in Orlando and I don't ever see people like that around here, not that there aren't, but I haven't run into it yet! Great post anyway.
There is absolutely prejudice and racism in a lot of places, against all races. It does matter when it comes to the area. However, I haven't seen any sort of indication that is the case here. I have been treated nicely, and with respect by all races. I think it really depends on the amount of exposure one has. Whereas you know all black people aren't like the girls you encountered, the girls who lived there all their life probably knew no different.
DeleteWhy doesn't "Ranting White Woman" respond to comments on her own posts?
ReplyDeleteThere are replies to all of the comments on this thread from me...
DeleteIt is a shame that some people would fabricate stories about something so serious. The claims do seem to be motivated at least partially by racism. But, according to your link above, I would guess that there are some real cases.
ReplyDeleteThe shame in this is that now, if this really were to happen, anyone who comes forward with a story like this will be viewed with suspicion and judged by some to be a racist.
Either way, as a parent I think its better to be safe than sorry. I'd rather racially-profile* than the unthinkable happen.
*Also note that this isn't just racial profiling, its cultural. If a wigger rolls up in an orange caddy on 26's I might keep an extra keen eye on my kids.
Anonymous, please see my new post coming in a few minutes as a reply to this. I was working on an update anyway. Thanks.
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